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 No.1825441[Reply]

Reading through this rn - its not even bad? Even gives some good arguments contra personality cult and why "enemy of the people" is a non-marxist idea - and outlines Lenin's humanism. Why again is Krushchev seen as a pariah?
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 No.1826878

>>1826447
>USSR "collapses"
The USSR did not "collapse" it was economically and ideologically sabotaged by pro capitalist and nationalist forces within the CPSU and the institutions, and then it fell by a coup.

 No.1826915

>>1825441
>Why again is Krushchev seen as a pariah?
Because he was a weasely fucking liar. He was one of the most enthusiastic for the purges etc. Using the typical Trot/leftcom definition you could say he was the most "Stalinist" in being a brown nosing bureaucratic toady who used the oppressions to advance his career and the cult of personality to save his own skin. Then when he and his cronies carried out a coup after Stalin's death he tried to turn over a new leaf and pretend everything bad was just Stalin's fault.

Oh and to top it off his bungling and greed for power eventually got him kicked out of leadership for the same anti-leninist practices he accused Stalin of.

 No.1827005

“Only the Revolutionary who manages to maintain or reestablish the historical tradition, by preserving in a positive memory the given present which he himself has relegated to the past by his negation, succeeds in creating a new historical World capable of existing.”

 No.1827075

>>1825441
If that's true you're still a liberal.

 No.1827485

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khrushchev, recognized and rightly so that the party went too far in a few places as they had helped place yezhov and later beria into power who both fucked things up and ran their investigations less on a case by case basis and more based on quota which resulted in numerous people getting punished who didn't, yezhov was even removed from his post for this very reason, as for his talk on stalin personally he only named the things he named to demonstrate that the personality cult was faulty which it was, even stalin hated his own personality cult and thought it was bullshit and after the war there was no real point to it other than as a way to keep stalin in power which was even against his own wishes.



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 No.1822010[Reply]

inspired by the WU thread. Pouring over what might as well be a hundred different urban guerilla groups I have come to the conclusion that almost all of them get crushed within 5 years, if they do not disband before that. It seems that no organizational model no matter how secure can survive the wrath of the modern bourgeois state with even cell based movements easily getting busted rightoid lone wolf schizos getting fucked by forensics. Are there exceptions to this rule and has anyone come up with a mpdel that works at least longer than others? Hell, let's say revolution isn't even your goal, but a resistance movement with which people can exert pressure against a supposed fascist coup in the future? Is there hope or should we listen to demoralizer schizos?
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>>1827329
Hezbollah only has the power it does because the Lebanese state is so weak and ineffectual (deliberately so as no centralized government could rule without excluding one of the religious and ethnic groups)

 No.1827448

>>1822010
Surveillance isn't helping. The US built an extensive surveillance system in Afghanistan and they still lost in fucking 3 days, Islamists do their terrorist attacks regularly in some of the most surveilled countries despite the usually pitiful state of their warriors. Ukraine still can't deal with people leaking coordinates and sabotaging shit despite their ultraviolent approach, complete western support, and modern infrastructure. Neither could westerners deal with BLM on their own soil.

 No.1827466

>Has there ever been an organizational model that could withstand the western surveillance state?

The Communist Party of China

 No.1827467

>>1827466
You mean the Chinese communist party?

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 No.1827189[Reply]

can i be so fucking fr rn we need to legalize doctor assisted suicide rather than have a bunch of senile old fucks living off social security who cant fucking do shit. they have no quality of life and only cause family members agony. my grandmother passed in october after a couple weeks of immense hospitalization and treatments. i remember her telling the doctors that she was suicidal and those fuckers didnt bat an eye. how come a 94 year old says theyre suicidal and no one takes it seriously. she had assets and family yet consider those without. if i wanted to kill myself and told someone i would probably be close to fucking doing it yet for my gma what is the point of her being alive. these clowns of government officials care more about keeping vegetables alive via machines feeding into the demand for hospitals rather than caring about their population. i wouldnt say i would help my gma kill herself but boy holy fuck . i would say my qualifications for state assistance with suicide would be underlining terminal conditions, old age (65+) and serious medical conditions equal to comas and such where going in you know the risks are really great if you proceed. Also fuck social security like quite honestly fuck that im paying to keep old ass bitches alive who don't appreciate me nor care while theyre in their multimillion dollar houses mocking at the millennials over a fucking SWEET TREAT!!!
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 No.1827358

>>1827278
Being dead makes you feel anything. Killpeopleism is not cool. Treating old people the reward for a life dedicated to work and labor is good actually.

 No.1827380

>>1827292
Am I wrong?
>>1827358
I don't think we're on the same page Anon, I'm no fan of murder. The key term is "assisted suicide", it would be on their own terms. As someone who has lived around those in the retirement industry and lost my parents to dementia, if you're willing to care for these individuals out of the goodness of your heart, good for you, but care-taking positions should be voluntary, and not coercive. Not sure where you're located, but where I'm from, the majority of retirement homes employ primarily immigrants of colour. The pay is low, the hours and work are strenuous, and in the capitalist world, most of the time, this is the only employment these individuals may be able to find. The work is largely compulsory, in addition to it being a burden on tax revenue. As it exists, the industry can barely suffice off its current existence, paying pennies to immigrants who can find no other work, does this not tell you enough money is wasted on this system?

 No.1827408

>As it exists, the industry can barely suffice off its current existence, paying pennies to immigrants who can find no other work, does this not tell you enough money is wasted on this system?

This is not a problem of scarcity or "not enough money". Is because is not profitable to treat old people as human beings. In socialism, treating and taking care of people is a necessity, and completely achievable. If the US spended billions of dollars in healthcare instead of weapons and aids to ukraine and palestine and trade barriers, maybe the life of old people would not be a living hell and they would never think of suicide.

 No.1827419

>>1827408
>because is not profitable to treat old people as human beings
Except it is, especially in the United States. Retirement communities are some of the most profitable business in the country. I implore you to explore The Villages, in Florida, for instance. The business is expanding across the country, meanwhile the workforce is primarily the same: Immigrants, and the wages don't highly vary. If the wages were higher, sure, more people would want to work these jobs, but I highly doubt that. It's a strenuous line of work that should be forced onto noone.
>maybe the life of old people would not be a living hell and they would never think of suicide
I agree, however in the case of mine and OP's case, some-people receive all the care they need, and are still in pain. These individuals are at the end of their lives, and no degree of delusion with free ice-cream or sanctuary can save them from this dread. Those that are seeking assisted-suicide would only be ones who are terminal or something like that.

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 No.1815724[Reply]

Often times third worldists/maoists will point to the general failure of communism in the imperial core as a reason to concentrate more on the periphery of empire rather then the first world.
As I recently started to go over past succesful communist revolutions and it seems to me that Cuba (by a pretty large margin) was probably the most developed nation there has ever been a succesful revolution in. By the 1950s Cuba had moved past a pure agriculture or even production economy into a service economy in many ways not unlike many smaller western europea nations today. At the time of the revolution cuba was one of the most developed nations in south america.
This got me thinking, if this is true, what lessons should first world Marxists learn from the cuban revolution?
Is it worth it to alley with populists and nationalists in the west as Fidel did in cuba?
Or is there some other material condition that makes this unworkable for us today??
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 No.1816108

>>1815732 (bot)
>non-seq
>>1815965 (bot)
>non-seq

>>1815734
>headlinefag
Back to reddit.com. OP even specifically said 'successful', multiple times.

 No.1817862

Czechoslovakia in 1948 would've been further on the road of capitalist development than Cuba in the 1950s no?

 No.1817984

>>1815724
>Was Cuba the Most Advanced Capitalist Country to ever have a Revolution?
not really, cuba was mostly plantations and a mafia resort for US tourist wanting sun and cheap whores, it was really not that advanced at all

 No.1818594

>>1815724
As it was said. Checkoslowakia and the German revolution
>>1815731
Rest in power to all those crazy and brave guys who tried focoism (literally 8/10 LATAM countries in that era)

 No.1826979

The Cuban economy before the revolution had much of its land in latifunia plantation, so it still was quite unindustrializedk on the eve of the takeover communist .militants'



 No.1788235[Reply]

>the petty bourgeois can't be revolutiona-
<From the standpoint of capital, therefore, what with hindsight appears to be part of a normal business cycle looked more like a dangerous secular trend toward stalemate-or worse-at the point of production, with all that implied for profits and the attendant social function of capitalists. This perception is, again, consistent with the evidence available then and now. But it is inconsistent with modern assumptions about the social power and cultural authority of "big business." That is probably why the obvious question seems practically impertinent: what could workers bring to bear in their struggles against employers that created the stalemate of the late 188os and early 189os? To put it another way, what resources did capitalists lack?
<
<If we follow the lead of the new labor historians and look more closely at the struggles for control of the workplace that began in earnest in the 188os, the significant variable appears to be the stance of the communities in which the struggles took place. When local officeholders, constables, editors, and small shopkeepers acted in solidarity with striking workers-and this seems to have been the norm-large employers were unable to impose their will on the labor force or to reshape the labor process, even if they imported external forces of law and order. Only when such solidarity was missing at the outset or undermined by protracted strikes, were the large employers able to reduce wages, break unions, and reconstruct the labor process.
<
<In this sense, the microeconomic problem was inseparable from the macroeconomic problem, or, in the parlance of the late nineteenth century, the economic problem entailed a social question. For the stalemate at the point of production was enforced by a larger deadlock that clearly involved more than capitalists and workers. At the very least it involved the loyalties of a middle class that was still rooted in and defined by petty proprietorship, not by occupational ladders within large bureaucratic organizations. It involved a middle class, in sum, that apparently had not acknowledged the permanence or legitimacy of large capital, a class that could, therefore, side with striking workers against large capital.
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>>1820243
>ut later in their lifes they lived without possessions and, in most cases, had nothing but their own food to eat, their inteligent books, and each other as comrades.
<As long as you follow the path of the proletariat when in adulthood,
Personal austerity is not what defines the 'path of the proleteriat', it's WORK.
Try it some time..

 No.1820371

>>1788235
There is a huge difference between self employed and petit porkies. In many cases self employed are exploited by large corporations and doing worse than actual proletarians.

 No.1820374

>>1820285
I will assume you understand the general concept

 No.1826963

The Nazis didn't have that much success in inclusion of the small Germ ynafarm owners, it's said.

 No.1827758

>>1788235
>unite all the all forces which can be united
cool fascism faggot



 No.1826760[Reply]

what are some funny and/or educational youtube channels, podcasts, or publications worth following?
can be dirtbag left, serious discussions, anything really

 No.1826768

Film Critters and Well There's Your Problem are pretty fun.
Also if you listen to a lot of podcasts and use linux, I recently found KDE Kasts is pretty comfy, it does RSS feeds and has a search function for finding more.

 No.1826772

cumtown

real answer the dollop and west wing thing

 No.1826836

Radio War Nerd is good. Blowback is goated



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Israeli court orders removal of Palestinian families from Sheikh Jarrah
Diab told Wafa that the judge reopened the case under pressure from The Nahalat Shimon settler group. The group have been active in pursuing eviction orders issued by Israeli courts against Palestinian families. According to Diab, the three families have lived in the houses for 56 years and have been battling eviction orders since 2009.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/palestinian-families-receive-eviction-orders-east-jerusalem

Turkish soldiers threaten to kill local people in Şemdinli
The soldiers attempt to conduct a body search before GBT, and threaten and insult those who reject it. The Turkish soldiers then threaten the people who refuse to get out of the vehicle with "death threats" and open fire several times, saying, "We will shoot you, we will kill you".
https://anfenglishmobile.com/kurdistan/turkish-soldiers-threaten-to-kill-local-people-in-Semdinli-72784

Israeli artist and curators decline to show work at Venice Biennale, call for ceasefire
"The art can wait, but the women, children and people living through hell cannot," the curators said in a statement together with the artist that expressed horror at both the plight of Palestinians in Gaza and relatives of hostages taken from Israel.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-artist-venice-biennale-1.7174886

Italy passes measures to allow anti-abortion activists to enter abortion clinics
The move follows measures already adopted by several rightwing-led regions in funding pressure groups to infiltrate consultation clinics, which provide women with a certificate confirming their wish to end a pregnancy. Some regions, such as Marche, which is led by Meloni’s Brothers of Italy, have also restricted access to the abortion pill.
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Alabama lawmakers OK bill barring state incentives to companies that voluntarily recognize union
The Alabama Senate voted 23-5 for the bill by Republican Sen. Arthur Orr, of Decatur. It now moves to the Alabama House of Representatives. The measure says that companies would be ineligible for economic development incentives if they voluntarily recognize a union after a majority of employees return union-authorization cards — a process sometimes called “card check-off.” Under the proposal, a secret ballot election would be required to determine if a union would be formed.
https://apnews.com/article/alabama-legislature-unions-ballot-elections-state-incentives-a94bafbe016d05b4031b70293a2a261f

Volkswagen union vote in Tennessee to test UAW's power after victories in Detroit
A victory would give the UAW its first major automaker win outside General Motors, Ford Motor, and Chrysler parent Stellantis. It would also offer a launching point for the union’s unprecedented organizing campaign of 13 automakers in the U.S. following major contract wins in 2023 with the Detroit companies.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/16/vw-workers-to-vote-on-joining-uaw-union-in-tennessee.html

Denver sweeps homeless encampment due to health concerns
The advocate group Housekeys Action Network said the encampment is made up of about 150 people who gathered there because Mayor Mike Johnston promised to break up large encampments into micro units. The city confirmed that they will not move people from this encampment into housing. The city will remove all items obstructing public areas during a coordinated multiagency cleanup.
https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/denver-homeless-camp-sweep-la-alma/73-00be03eb-3380-4e8e-b1d4-edd1e017e98e

Migrants rally at NYC's City Hall, want officials to make it easier for them to work
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Tudeh Party of Iran, The catastrophic playing with fireby imperialism and reactionary forces in the Middle East, and its perils for the people of the region and world peace
In recent months, the policies of global imperialism led by the US imperialism in the region have increasingly placed the Middle East in the quagmireof the risk of a widespread military confrontation which might extend the war to Iran's soil, all the while unjustifiably defending the "crimes against humanity" policies of the Netanyahu government, which have led to the massacre of over 33,000 Palestinians, including more than 11,000 children. The expansion of the US military presence in the region and the announcement of the direct participation of the US naval fleet and the air forces of Britain and France in destroying Iranian drones indicate a dangerous policy pursued jointly by imperialism and local reactionary forces in the region.
http://www.solidnet.org/article/Tudeh-Party-of-Iran-The-catastrophic-playing-with-fireby-imperialism-and-reactionary-forces-in-the-Middle-East-and-its-perils-for-the-people-of-the-region-and-world-peace/

Petro Is Trying to Rein in Colombia’s Infamous Riot Police
The 2021 demonstrations and national strike in Colombia, called to protest unpopular tax increases and health care reforms proposed by then president Iván Duque and to demand an end to police violence, were themselves met, unsurprisingly, with police violence. Despite an aggressive campaign by official media and government outlets to portray the protesters as vandals and criminals tied to terrorist groups, videos of the rampant human rights abuses, violence, and assassinations against peaceful protesters on the part of the Mobile Anti-Riot Squadron (Escuadrón Móvil Antidisturbios, or ESMAD), the country’s dreaded riot police, went viral on social media. The police repression backfired and helped swing the tide of popular sentiment against the right-wing government, culminating in the election of President Gustavo Petro, a left-wing ex-guerrilla. President Petro began his administration with a plan for “Total Peace,” negotiating with the major armed groups to bring peace to aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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tybna

 No.1826819

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Thanks News Anon



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 No.1824134[Reply]

We sort of need a thread for socs / commies etc to describe their life improvement goals and what they're doing to further their own lives in intractably capitalist society.

Remember the old thread when we were discussing how Communists should be like Shaolin monks, but unironically? Let's try to make it happen and cheer each other on!
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 No.1826083

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I'm cutting down on coffee consumption for the sake of my tum tum
been cutting down on alcohol, favoring low ABV beer. last weekend I strayed from this, got shitfaced and vomited. so yeah, low ABV beer it is
been going more to the gym, but it's tricky because of heart issues
>>1824139
>I'm also aiming to deadlift 200 kg in a couple of months
weakest Haskeller 💪

 No.1826091

>>1826052
Post updates to the >>>/hobby/ thread please.

 No.1826093

>>1826091
Will keep it in mind.

 No.1826145

>>1824444
Send your kid to the new peoples army

 No.1826641

>>1824444
Nice effort and nice quads



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🇵🇸 PREVIOUSLY ON THE HOLY LAND 🇵🇸
>>>/leftypol/1822559
>>1822559

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🚨 Live Happenings/Updates 🚨

• Al-Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/3/8/israels-war-on-gaza-live-60000-pregnant-women-face-malnutrition-in-gaza

• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

• Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-march-09-2024/ (trigger warning)

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 No.1826248

Whats the next move? What will happen next?

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>>1826255
new thread

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 No.1826302

>>1825714
Dancing by Aaron Smith

 No.1826416

>>1825010
whiteness isn't real. pan everopean identity is a spook. it's impossible to be racist to white people because they don't even exist. people who think of themselves as white have been indoctrinated.



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Several Israeli troops wounded in Lebanon attack claimed by Hezbollah
Iran-backed Hezbollah said on Monday that it had detonated “explosive devices” targeting Israeli soldiers who crossed into Lebanese territory. In a statement, the group said its fighters planted explosive devices in the Tel Ismail area in southern Lebanon, near the border with Israel.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/15/several-israeli-troops-wounded-in-lebanon-attack-claimed-by-hezbollah
https://archive.is/qbjTf

Israeli military says it will respond to Iran, weighing 'variety of options'
Halevi's comments come amid reports that a response may be imminent, but Israel has not indicated how and when such an attack might be executed. An Israeli official told NBC News on Monday that the country will respond to the Iranian attack, but that there has been no final decision yet on scale and timing.
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2024/04/israeli-military-says-it-will-respond-iran-weighing-variety-options

UK Foreign Office holding secret talks with Sudan’s RSF paramilitary group
News that the British government and the Rapid Support Forces (RSF) are engaged in clandestine negotiations has prompted warnings that such talks risk legitimising the notorious militia – which continues to commit multiple war crimes – while undermining Britain’s moral credibility in the region.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/apr/15/uk-foreign-office-holding-secret-talks-with-sudans-rsf-paramilitary-group

Scottish Trades Union Congress fails to back no-cuts motion
The motion did not win the backing of the general council however, who questioned the legality of such a move and called for the formulation of a “practical” strategy to oppose the cuts. North Lanarkshire, Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.1825960

>>1825841
Western glowops can fund vastly more NGO's than the Russians can, which makes it "anti-western" by defacto.

 No.1825999

FUCK YOU, BAD NEWS ANON! I HATE YOU!

 No.1826136

>>1825841
Actual Churkoid here
nobody actually knows what this bill will do everyone is just riled up because EU forces have been non stop shitting on us to take away our candidate status if we accept the law or whatever the fuck
basically its just teenagers dissatisfied with the government getting a reason to throw molotovs at the parlament and pretend to do a revolution

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thx news anon.

 No.1826194

>>1826157
Cute :3



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